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Post by Bengals GM (Jonathan) on Oct 27, 2021 16:52:45 GMT -7
The Bengals and the Washington Football team have agreed to the following trade:
Bengals trade:
QB Justin Fields 6m (2025) QB Andy Dalton 16m (2022) QB Nick Foles 4m (2021) WR James Proche 1.5m (2022 RFA) WR Equanimeous St. Brown .644m (2021) LB Tremaine Edmunds 3.2m (2022) CB Taron Johnson .776m (2021) 2022 5th CIN 2023 5th NYJ
To Washington for:
QB Mac Jones 6m (2025) WR Michael Pittman 4m (2024)
Big trade. While we love Fields and feel he has huge upside, we are big fans of Mac Jones and feel he offers similar upside with a higher floor. Hate to lose Edmunds as he was in our long term plans but we have been tying to acquire Pittman for a while and are willing to make the move. Doing this gives us a young QB and a nice young WR core to build around. Thanks the Ben and his Washington team for the back and forth negotiations!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 18:09:04 GMT -7
The Washington Football Team Accepts. Thanks for the deal!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 18:11:30 GMT -7
Approve 1-0
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Post by Saints GM (Roby) on Oct 27, 2021 19:37:54 GMT -7
Veto 1-1
This is a bad deal for Washington. I can understand Fields and Jones being swapped. Jones has a higher floor and Fields has a higher ceiling. I don’t understand giving up on your only WR that consistently scores points and who looks to have a nice future. Good WRs on rookie deals are hard to come by. The part I don’t understand the most is taking Dalton’s contract at 16m for 2 years. AWashington already has Jimmy G’s contract at 27.5m for the next couple of years. That’s 43.5m in backup QB contracts.
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Post by Raiders GM (Sean) on Oct 27, 2021 20:26:19 GMT -7
Veto 1-2
I'll stand behind the Saints on this one. It does seem too high, with roll-over money for one of the backups and yes, Pittman looked darn good to me against my horrible 49ers on Sunday night.
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Post by Bengals GM (Jonathan) on Oct 28, 2021 3:56:24 GMT -7
So, just want to elaborate a little more from my end and explain why I am a confused by these vetos.
Fields/Jones - seems no one has a problem with this. As stated in my acceptance and by the saints, one has a higher ceiling one a lower floor. And as we all do in fantasy football, we go for the those high ceiling players. That statement alone tells you it’s Fields > Jones, even if some may think it’s a little, it’s still Fields > Jones.
So let’s look at the backups (Dalton and Foles)
Of course if you have a young QB you want to have the backups locked up, and yes Daltons contract is ugly (albeit only for a year and a half) but you are given 2x 5th round picks for taking something that you actually need/want.
That leaves
Edmunds Johnson Proche St.Brown
For Pittman
I know it was mentioned why he would give him up, he still has Ques Watkins, Amma St. Brown, Paris Campbell and Kelen Cole to start at WR
Now look at his LBs, the only starting LB he has is Nick Vigil.
Edmunds is Fantasy pros dynasty’s 8th overall LB and he is only 23. Only person younger than him and ahead of him is Devin White.
Johnson has the 2nd highest points avg. for a CB this season only behind Diggs.
And 2 depth WRs
For Pittman who is fantasy pros dynasty’s 41st overall WR.
Who has been playing all year except one game without Hilton. I feel like As was pointed out to me last night by another GM, we might be looking at Pittman through rose tinted glasses.
Is this trade egregious? No. Is this trade collusion? No.
I understand that some may see this as close, But Edmunds, Johnson, Proche and St. Brown is vetoable for Pittman?
I don’t see it.
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Post by Patriots GM (Bushma) on Oct 28, 2021 5:09:07 GMT -7
I dont see this as a vetoable trade. Approve 2-2
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Post by Cardinals GM (Blaine) on Oct 28, 2021 5:15:10 GMT -7
I can understand the vetos but I see it a little differently, Pittman is a great young WR but I like Fields over Mac Jones especially longterm and I think getting Tremaine Edmonds is nice for Washington as well. As far as the Dalton argument it makes sense as he is Fields backup. I will approve
3-2
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Post by Cardinals GM (Blaine) on Oct 28, 2021 5:15:37 GMT -7
Processed
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